Mittwoch, 21. Januar 2009

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Von Zeit zu Zeit bekommen wir per E-Mail oder Kontaktformular lustige Zuschriften, die man auch Leserbriefe nennen könnte. Meistens sind sie ganz nett formuliert, oft haben sie einen gewissen Eigennutz als Triebfeder. Das sieht dann etwa so aus:

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Weder Vice noch der im Mail genannte Schweizer Blog waren mir ein Begriff, also klickte ich auf die Links von Frau Barbara Dabrowskas Absenderzeile und fand auf dem Webportal schnell den erwähnten Schweizer Blog. Ich staunte nicht schlecht: Da prangte zuoberst ein Post, der mir sehr bekannt vorkam. Es war ein Post, den ich vor drei Monaten geschrieben und hier auf diesem tollen Blog publiziert habe. Die VICE Deutschland GmbH hat meinen ganzen Beitrag samt Fotos und Überschrift auf ihr kommerzielles Webportal übernommen. Dies ohne unsere Bewilligung. Ein paar Tage später schrieb sie uns das oben zitierte Mail, in dem sie uns anbietet, mit ihnen zusammen zu arbeiten. Obwohl mir die Worte fehlten, antwortete ich Frau Barbara Dabrowska, dass es nicht nur sehr unhöflich ist, Content von fremden Websites zu klauen, sondern auch illegal. Am nächsten Tag, als ich nachschauen wollte, ob ich diese Geschichte nur geträumt habe, stellte ich fest, dass besagter Eintrag gelöscht wurde. Zurückgeschrieben hat mir Frau Barbara Dabrowska bis jetzt nicht.

UPDATE
Hier der Screenshot vom geklauten Artikel auf http://vice.typepad.com/vice_schweiz :

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  2. Ein Fall für Plagiat.ch? Immer schön Screenshots machen von sowas. Denn auch nicht schlecht war unsere Geschichte (noch nicht online): es wurden komplette Beiträge von Plagiat.ch geklaut! Wir haben den Betreiber kontaktiert - bislang keine Antwort. Doch demnächst werden unsere Leser - äh - darüber lesen.

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  3. Schickt am besten gleich eine Rechnung. Manchmal zahlen Content-Klauer lieber ein Autorenhonorar, als sich auf einen Rechtsstreit einzulassen, den sie mit Sicherheit verlieren würden.

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  4. @weltregierung: ich verstehe irgendwie nicht so ganz was sie meinen...

    @david: wäre durchaus ein fall für euch. habe jedoch unterlassen, einen screenshot zu machen.

    @pjebsen: scheint als hätten sie erfahrung mit content-klauern. kommt sowas häufig vor? wenn der content jedoch bereits gelöscht ist, ist es schwierig, die tat zu beweisen. das war die url:
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  5. schade, denn VBS.tv wäre eigentlich nicht so schlecht. Aber Contentklau ist natürlich extrem mies.

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  6. @Köbi: Ich habe zum Glück wenige Erfahrungen mit Content-Klau, aber ich kenne als Journalist die juristische Situation ganz gut. Man muss den Tatbestand natürlich dokumentieren können, sonst hat man schlechte Karten.

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  8. Haha, dass es ausgerechnet das Vice Magazin war, passt ja wiedermal wunderbar.
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  9. "Kontakte zu relevanten Unternehmen, Media- und Werbeagenturen sind essentiell, ebenso wie eine Vertrautheit mit dem Ethos von VICE als Marke und Unternehmen."
    (http://www.viceland.com/germany/jobs.php)

    die sind ja schlimmer als wir.

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  10. @weltregierung: danke, jetzt weiss ich was sie mit link-tsunami meinen. fiese sache!

    @ernst moll: muss man das vice magazin kennen? ist das urban?

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  11. vice ist in etwa so urban wie playlust und terence koh kopulierend auf einem fixie-velo (sorry werny) an einer kunstvernissage im perla moda inkl. fashion-performance und videoinstallation eines londoner underground street-artists, der voll ambivalente konsumkritik macht und neongelbe brillen ohne gläser trägt. ich kenn mich aus.

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  13. im google-cache findet man den geklauten eintrag noch: http://209.85.129.132/search?q=cache:eBYnNMU-mlcJ:vice.typepad.com/vice_schweiz/2009/01/foto-hate-story.html+http://vice.typepad.com/vice_schweiz/2009/01/foto-hate-story.html&hl=de&ct=clnk&cd=2&gl=ch

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